Luka Huqa Chepe
Gabra Historical Texts (2025) Number: GHT-KSP.002
Gas
January 24, 2025
Study Team: Paul W Robinson, Wata Guyo Ibrae, Abdelwahab Sinnary, Matt Carotenuto,
Chachu Ganya, Shanu Abudho, Njau Kibochi
Conversation Lead & Translation: Wata Guyo Ibrae

“Before, there was nothing like saying this land is mine, because the land belonged to everybody and only animals belonged to the owners. But now land has also owners.”
(Luka Huqa Chepe)
Biography
Luka Huqa Chepe was interviewed by Wata Guyo Ibrae at Gas in January 2025. A member of the Rerwalan clan of the Gara section, Luka was born into a nomadic pastoral family but spent much of his adult life as a teacher and school administrator in communities across northern Kenya.
Original Transcript
Interview Recording
Synopsis
In this conversation, Wata Guyo asked Luka Huqa Chepe to reflect on the changes brought about by permanent settlement and the challenges facing Gabra society. Luka described how expanding settlements and water points have reduced the availability of pastures, while at the same time houses and towns increasingly obstruct livestock routes to wells. He was particularly concerned about changing Gabra attitudes toward land. “Before, there was nothing like saying this land is mine,” he observed, explaining that while livestock had individual owners, land had once belonged to everyone.
Interview Summary
Luka Huqa Chepe described settlement as having fundamentally changed the relationship between people, livestock, water, and land. Under the earlier system of mobility, he noted, grazing areas could be left unused and recover while people and livestock moved elsewhere. Today, with settlements and water points now distributed widely across Gabra country, fewer areas remain ungrazed. Pastures around settlements are used continually, contributing to overgrazing and leaving livestock with fewer opportunities to move onto previously rested land.
Notes
Luka’s conversation brings into view two closely related transformations: the changing organization of the physical landscape and the changing relationships among the people who inhabit it. His account of land is especially revealing. He remembered a time when animals belonged to individuals but land was available to everyone. The distinction was fundamental to the pastoral economy he knew as a child. Livestock were privately owned, but access to grazing and water depended upon arrangements that enabled people and their animals to move across the landscape.
